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some people are dumb

Tue Sep 29, 2009, 12:01 PM
  • Mood: Frustrated
okay so yesterday i was discussing things with two of my coworkers and one of them said something about his other job, where he works with a transwoman i happen to know. she's a lesbian.

he said he didn't understand why "a man would go through that whole process just to end up a lesbian." and the other employee agreed. :/ i tried to explain to them that it'd be no different from a regular woman liking other women, but they just didn't get it.

i think what a lot of people don't understand is that there is a very, very big difference between gender and sexual preference.

do most gay men wish they were women? i don't think so.

do most lesbians wish they were men? probably not.

i think the illusion that being trans means you're just a gay man/woman who has a fascination with the opposite sex stems from both stereotypes of homosexuals, and general misunderstandings from the cisgendered heterosexual community.

i'm not trans because i want to have a "heterosexual" relationship with a woman. i'm trans because i feel misplaced in my body and i don't like being recognized as a woman, because inside, that's not what i am.

not all transmen are extremely butch. not all transwomen are flowery. just like cisgendered men and women, there is a spectrum. there is no black and white. some transmen are gay, some transwomen are lesbians, and there are most definitely roles in-between.

me? i'm pansexual. however, just like being trans, that does not define who i am. there is more to me as a person beyond what i see in myself and others as being "right" or "sexually appealing."

i just wish more people would understand that. :/

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:iconakuaoioni:
Mhm I understand what you're getting at.
Though it might be too much to expect people to understand. It just kinda flies over peoples heads if they don't experience it themselves :/
:iconpachipokegrrl:
I understand that- yer coworkers needa shut-up and listen for a second :/

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:iconflyingfatality:
I like being the sort of person who's open to accept anything (well, most anything - incest creeps me the f*ck out, but that's just me). So, I understand what you mean and why it would upset you that these people would be so closed minded and think of trans people only by their stereotypes.

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:iconkatelin7249:
I definately understand what you're getting at. I'm bi, and I constantly get people telling me I'm either indecisive or I'm 'trying to be trendy' with my sexuality. They just can't get their heads around the idea of me being attracted to people regardless of gender.

Unfortunately, thanks to the ever-so-lovely stereotypes we see in the media every day, people can be very dumb and it's difficult, if not impossible to get people to admit the stereotype is just that.

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:iconenidfreyr:
some people are just gonna stay ignorant. : 0
i tend to ignore them~

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:iconrinji-chan:
I was just coming in here to agree with the title.

But I agree with your whole story/explanation too. <3

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:iconyamikochan:
Actually...I disagree heavily with what most that you have said...

most girls who feel 'misplaced' in their body really don't want a relationship at all. I happen to be one of those girls, my sister even gets that way a lot. (She just happen to get lucky and find a good guy who likes her for her, and that's minus the 'her' part...it was just the person she is)

Most people whom are classified as 'misplaced' don't have a preference and would rather not DATE AT ALL due heavily to the fact that they do not want to be classified as either one or the other (also, taken from a lot of sociology and psychology classes I have taken that plus personal experience) Thus the term 'misplaced' meaning, you can't really place yourself anywhere (now, if you are referring to 'bisexual' that's completely different, those people will date either one, they don't have a preference, they just will date someone they like no matter what gender they are) anything beyond that falls either into: heterosexual or homosexual...I shouldn't need to define these two since they are pretty basic.

Another thing, I wouldn't necessarily call these people 'dumb' by in doing so, you are just setting them in a stereotype. Perhaps it's the way they grew up or raised, not many people are thoroughly informed about this sort of thing...just thought you should understand that. >>;

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:iconv-incarnate:
From what i understand, there are now four dimensions of gender classification.

Physical: what you were born as (male/ female/ both)
Sexuality: the way you swing: (hetro/homo/bi/pan/hypo/andro/gyno)
Persona: they way you are precieved (manly/womanly)
Self: what you believe yourself to be (man/woman/both/neither)

Most people never have to think of these things, which is why they dont understand them. Im accepting of any combination of these traits, because i do believe there is a spectrum. If your born a guy and you want to be a manly girl who is also bisexual, got for it.

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:iconpandybear25:
Eh sry dont agree with the whole girls not wanting to date at "all" Of course they want to date, but who they date should be up to them no matter what they want to be. If they find that one person who likes them for who they are thats wonderful :D Everyone just wants another person to like them for who they are, not there gender. I'm straight and hell if I became anything other I would just want a person to like me for me, that should be a good basis for any relationship whether friendship or the intimate relationship.

But see we might not all agree with each other but we understand eachother and thats what counts :D Thats what makes any relationship strong, the willingness to understand the other person.

One thing I do agree on is that some people actually don't have a clue about all the things you have stated. They are more ignorant than dumb. XD Don't worry I have no bias on anyone's decisions in the case of gender, it's all about the person and who they are :D

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